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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

Kraankinderen

English translation:

treadwheel workers

Added to glossary by Richard Purdom
Feb 4, 2015 16:26
9 yrs ago
Dutch term

Kraankinderen

Dutch to English Tech/Engineering History
OK, I think this is a colloquial term for somebody in a treadwheel (operating a medieval cargo crane), has this 'job' any title?
Proposed translations (English)
4 treadwheel workers
4 crane workers; crane workmen
References
refs

Discussion

Michael Beijer Feb 9, 2015:
¬ Just noticed that it can be downloaded from free from:
• http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bmAIAAAAQAAJ&printsec=fro...
• https://books.google.nl/books?id=SJFZAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA417&lpg=P...

Ook leuk: https://archive.org/details/hossfeldsdutchdi00londuoft (Hossfeld's Dutch dialogues, and idiomatic phrases indispensable for a rapid acquisition and correct expression of the Dutch language (1903))
Richard Purdom (asker) Feb 4, 2015:
compleat dictionary Yes Freek, that is priceless olde worlde NL/ENG stuff!
Richard Purdom (asker) Feb 4, 2015:
the world is a better place than it used to be... Michael, I found this;
http://www.medievaltravel.co.uk/jobs/treadmill-operator.html
The operator would trudge for hours, turning the treadmill which moved the winch on a crane. It was monotonous and dangerous because if the treadmill was damaged by the weather, or badly constructed it could come crashing down.
Michael Beijer Feb 4, 2015:
@Richard: Are you sure his work is restricted to the treadwheel part? The various refs would seem to indicate that this might not be the case.

PS: added freek's vondst ("A Compleat Dictionary English and Dutch…") to my http://wordbook.nl/
Richard Purdom (asker) Feb 4, 2015:
michael yup, I think 'crane treadwheel operator' will have to do
Michael Beijer Feb 4, 2015:
@freek: Very interesting dictionary ("A Compleat Dictionary English and Dutch, to which is Added a ..., Volume 1", by Egbert Buys")! Never heard of it. Wonder if it's for sale anywhere.

It has "a workman belonging to a crane". Hmm.

Seems it is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/compleat-dictionary-English-language...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Compleat-Dictionary-English-Language...
http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/compleat-dictionar...
Michael Beijer Feb 4, 2015:
crane operator? dekt niet echt de lading, maar is misschien niet zo erg. hangt natuurlijk van je tekst af

How about "crane worker" or "crane workman"?
freekfluweel Feb 4, 2015:
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraankind

https://books.google.nl/books?id=SJFZAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA417&lpg=P...

Proposed translations

3 days 2 hrs
Selected

treadwheel workers

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadwheel_crane
"Additionally, the crane master who usually gave orders at the treadwheel workers from outside the crane was able to manipulate the movement laterally by a small rope attached to the load."
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I actually went with 'treadwheel lads' to reflect ' kinderen' in the Dutch"
2 hrs

crane workers; crane workmen

My best shot. See my Reference comment and Discussion entries.

I think mentioning the treadmill is overkill.
Example sentence:

Vauxhall crane workmen escape death because they overslept.

Other crane workers such as the signal person, repair and maintenance workers, and riggers, must meet specific qualifications …

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Reference comments

17 mins
Reference:

refs

Van Dale Groot woordenboek van de Nederlandse taal (14e editie, 2005):
kraankind:
1·arbeider, sjouwer die de stedelijke kraan bediende
1a bier-, wijndrager

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Geïntegreerde Taalbank (GTB):

See: http://gtb.inl.nl/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=MNW&id=23686...

CRAENKINT

Woordsoort: znw(m.)
Varianten: cranekint
Modern lemma: kraankind
(cranekint), znw. m.

Vooral in het mv. craenkinder, de werklieden of sjouwerlui, die aan de kranen werkten Vgl. kint (3, 1439). Kil. kraenkind, geranius, operarius gerani, calcator tympani versatilis. Vgl. Rek. v. Brugge v. 1302, bl. 331. Zie Invent. v. Brugge 2, 480 en Ann. Em. 5, 163: “Les ouvriers de la grue (kranekinders).”

and:

http://gtb.inl.nl/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M0352...
http://gtb.inl.nl/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M0322...
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Wikipedia:

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraankind

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