Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

factual detailed informational pictures

Serbian translation:

којима је посао био да праве верне и детаљне приказе стварности

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Mar 10, 2021 16:41
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English term

factual detailed informational pictures

English to Serbian Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Art theory
Потребан ми је превод наведене синтагме у контексту следеће реченице: "The blow fell first on the heads of the artists - painters, draughtsmen, and engravers - who had made factual detailed informational pictures".

Реченица је из књиге Prints and Visual Communication (William M. Ivins, Jr.). Аутор у тексту одакле је реченица преузета говори о предности фотографских репродукција у односу на ручно рађене графичке репродукције уникатних уметничких дела.

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Daryo Mar 11, 2021:
as for "... decades ago there was a large number of "typists" specialised in inputting data on Hollerith cards"

I still remember that time, they were as many of them as "ordinary/normal" secretaries, if not more.

And then that specialised profession just disappeared, together with punch cards being used as input for computers.

Here is the "reference" https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfo/vérif (in French)

Same as people specialized in manually making technical drawings - profession vanished, all done by CAD software today.

Some people think that being translator is headed to the same direction, thanks to so-called "Machine Translation", but I'm not convinced about that one. Not in any foreseeable future.
Daryo Mar 11, 2021:
Извор навода. "Who remembers nowadays..." is my own.

If you meant to ask about what follows after that part, here is some interesting trivia:

Computer (job description)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The term "computer", in use from the early 17th century (the first known written reference dates from 1613), meant "one who computes": a person performing mathematical calculations, before electronic computers became commercially available. Alan Turing described the "human computer" as someone who is "supposed to be following fixed rules; he has no authority to deviate from them in any detail."

Teams of people, often women from the late nineteenth century onwards, were used to undertake long and often tedious calculations; the work was divided so that this could be done in parallel. The same calculations were frequently performed independently by separate teams to check the correctness of the results.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(job_description)
midjor (asker) Mar 11, 2021:
Извор навода. Молим Вас за информацију одакле је преузета реченица "Who remembers nowadays...".
Daryo Mar 10, 2021:
Strictly speaking this is not so much about "art", it's more about innovations "disrupting" existing markets, killing off some professions and creating new ones.

Who remembers nowadays that the first "computers" were in fact people doing manual calculations? Or that decades ago there was a large number of "typists" specialised in inputting data on Hollerith cards?

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English term (edited): who had made factual detailed informational pictures
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којима је посао био да праве верне и детаљне приказе стварности


Први ударац (промене) су претрпели уметници ... којима је посао био (/који су живели од тога) да праве верне и детаљне приказе стварности


factual detailed informational pictures = these artists (= painters, draughtsmen, and engravers) were making their living from making "factual detailed informational pictures" i.e. graphical representation of actual "objects" as they really are (=factual, no impressionism or cubism or ) and in great details, with the aim o provide information about these "objects" (someone's portrait, some panorama, etc).

Photography is far better than any human at "factual detailed informational pictures" of any real object, so "the blow (=the loss of their clients)" fell first on the heads of those artists that were doing the same thing as photography but by their own hands.
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