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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

ch cold cereal

English answer:

CHILD's cold cereal (airline terminology)

Added to glossary by KathyT
Nov 23, 2004 10:28
19 yrs ago
English term

ch cold cereal

English Marketing Food & Drink
Hi all,

Could you provide me with a guess as to what this might be? It's supposed to be an airline meal entry. I understand the "cold cereal" part, but what is "ch"...

Thank you.
Responses
5 +1 CHILD'S COLD CEREAL
1 +13 chocolate? Choice of ?
5 +3 Ask the customer
1 +3 children's meal
1 +2 Parallel thinking ... Muesli??
2 +1 Choice of Cold Cereal
2 Chef cold cereal
1 cheezy horrbile cold cereal ;-)

Discussion

KathyT Dec 9, 2004:
That's absolutely fine with me! ;-)
Non-ProZ.com Dec 9, 2004:
Right - that's why I asked. Well, if anyone comes and says it's not "child's cold cereal", it's gonna be on you! :=]
KathyT Dec 8, 2004:
Loops (disgusting rainbow-coloured sugary things) rather than "less exciting", sometimes blander cereals such as cornflakes or a plain bran cereal. The packaging designs for the aforementioned ones are clearly oriented towards the kids' market.
KathyT Dec 8, 2004:
I think I already glossed this one, but yes, I AM sure, at least 99.9% as I said earlier. The distinction for children I am sure is that they may be offered a box/sachet of cold cereal marketed for children, such as Coco-Pops (choc. flavoured) or Fruit...
Non-ProZ.com Dec 8, 2004:
Hi Kathy. You don't *really* know for sure that it's Child's cold cereal, do you? (this is not for my translation anymore, rather the gloss entry).
Non-ProZ.com Dec 3, 2004:
The results are in!
It was Charlie Bavington who suggested to translate only the "COLD CEREAL" part of this admittedly horrible airline menu entry. And incidentally, that is also the client's request. How sad it is that we will never know the answer to this cheezy little puzzle!
KathyT Nov 27, 2004:
In-flight, the cereal comes in single-serve mini-boxes or sachets. Milk is either fresh from the drinks trolloey or supplied in those tetra-brik foil cartons (esp. soy milk).
KathyT Nov 27, 2004:
Ignorant me! It didn't even occur to me that cold cereal would not be universally understood. Dee Braig is absolutely correct. Cold cereal can be cornflakes, rice bubbles, weet-bix, nutri-grain, muesli, etc. ad nauseum.
Hermeneutica Nov 26, 2004:
Cold cereal is like cornflakes etc., i.e. the cereal and cold milk. Hot cereal would be porridge, [anything else???]. However, the mere fact that a conceptual distinction might be being made could fit with your earlier question about an Australian airline
Non-ProZ.com Nov 26, 2004:
I've sent a query about this, hopefully we'll soon be spared the 'thrill' of guessing endlessly. By the way, (sorry to strain you one more time) would you think a cold cereal on a place would be served with milk (hence *cold* cereal)?
Bo Smith Nov 23, 2004:
First thing came to my mind was "Chinese cold cereal"!! But such a thing does not exist. ;) We do use CH a lot, short for Chinese though.
Nesrin Nov 23, 2004:
Don't expect too much consistency. "Child" wasn't abbreviated when followed by a short word (meal), abbreviated to "Chd" when followed by a long word (hamburger), so it's possible that they chose to abbreviate it to "Ch" when followed by 2 words (cold c.)
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
You see, CHILD would have probably been abbreviated "CHD" like in "CHD HAMBURGER". I agree though, these meals sound horrible and I'm sure they are in fact rather bad.
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
Just a thought... If this were an Australian airline, would one of the guesses be more likely than the others?
Hermeneutica Nov 23, 2004:
"Child's" or "Chef's" are possibilities now ... it all sounds disgusting anyway!
Nesrin Nov 23, 2004:
This is anybody's guess really! I think you will have to put a question mark on this one for the client to find the answer. I myself am inclined to go with Derek's suggestion (children) - but who knows?
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
...
HEART HEALTHY
ALL AMER.BRKFST
FRIED CHICKEN
FRUIT SALAD
CHILD HOTDOG
GREAT AMER HBGR
CHD HAMBURGER
PBJ SANDWICH
SEA FOOD PLATE
VEGETARIAN/NON-DAIRY
VEGETARIAN/LACTO-OVO
ASIAN VEG MEAL
INF/BABY FOOD
BLAND MEAL
CHILD MEAL
DIABETIC MEAL
GLUTEN FREE
HINDU
KOSHER
LOW SODIUM
MUSLIM MEAL
SEAFOOD MEAL
VEGETARIAN
VEG/LACTO-OVO
POST WEANING MEAL
FRUIT BOWL
NO SALT MEAL
INDIAN VEGETARIAN
HOT SEAFOOD MEAL
TODDLER MEAL
BEEF BURGER
CHICKEN MEAL
FRUIT ONLY
FRUIT PLATTER
HOT DOG MEAL
NO SALT MEAL
BADATZ MEAL
INFANT/BABY FOOD
INFANT/BABY FOOD
FRUIT PLATE
FRUIT BOWL
FRUIT PLATE
NO SALT MEAL
LOW CARB/SUGAR
BONELESS CHICKEN
FRUIT PLATE
INDIAN VEGETARIAN
BEEF KOSHER MEAL
CHICKEN KOSHER
FISH KOSHER MEAL
KOSHER MEAL
VEGETARIAN KOSHER
NO SALT MEAL
OBENTO
REFUGEE MEAL
CHEF SALAD
*************************************
CH COLD CEREAL
*************************************
CHICKEN FINGERS
HAM/CH SANDWICH
MAC/CH W/HOTDOG
BLUEBERRY PANCAKE
FRUIT PLATE
SALMON OMELETTE
SESAME CHICKEN
...
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
Dear colleagues, you are all right about context. I myself have answered nearly a thousand Kudoz questions and I feel your pain! Trust me, I'm not happy asking questions as stupid as this one where the translation depends on the toss of a coin.

I will give you several other lines such as this one. However I cannot even claim that they are contextually related! They may be from the same airline menu or they could be parts of different ones...
Charlie Bavington Nov 23, 2004:
I'm with Ian & Victor. Knowing the lines above and below, what meal this is supposed to be, anything else you feel able to share (a.k.a. "the context") would be awfully useful.
Hermeneutica Nov 23, 2004:
Birchermuesli = national cereal [healthy stuff, in the original version full of fibre, nuts and dried fruits, which provide the only sweetening] of Switzerland, whose int. symbol, as Victor just said, is CH ... D for Germany, GB for the UK, etc.
Victor Potapov Nov 23, 2004:
CH is the international symbol for Switzerland.
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
To Dee: Thanks for the thought Dee. I'm not sure though that I understand the link between muesli, Switzerland and the enigmatic "ch"...
Victor Potapov Nov 23, 2004:
still there is "a context without a context" - sorry for this high-winded style. What is this text? (airline menu). For breakfast/lunch/dinner (if you know)? What are the text lines above/below the one that's a problem? etc.

Regards!
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
To Ian: Sorry Ian, there is none - it's a list of names for meals or food categories. I'm having a heck of a time "translating" this! (NOT)
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
To Victor: Thanks! Chocolate should be correct. I had thought of "choice of" but then it probably would have used the word "of". Let's wait for more opinions.
IanW (X) Nov 23, 2004:
Could we have the whole sentence, please?

Responses

+1
13 hrs
Selected

CHILD'S COLD CEREAL

Hi SirReal, I would still recommend verification with the client, HOWEVER I'm 99.9% sure that CHILD is what you're after. When I used to work in the travel industry (in Australia) some years ago, CH was the common abbreviation for child, most commonly CHML being the 4-letter coding for child meal. As the airlines gradually increased their variety of "special meals" to accommodate a wider range of dietary choices, this was replaced by "SPML" for 'special meal', with the specifics added in a separate Remarks section (your list shows just how broad this range has become.)
Also, I regularly travel with my kids and when making the initial reservations, I always have to request the (cold) cereal breakfast for my daughter who has an egg allergy and therefore cannot eat some of the hot breakfasts (with egg or sweet pastries) that many airlines seem to offer.
So there you go.....
Peer comment(s):
agree airmailrpl : -
9 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for all the pertinent info, Kathy."
+13
6 mins

chocolate? Choice of ?

Looks like breakfast menu for me - and it can be either chocolate cereal or choice of cereal, porrige or ham & eggs (to make it an English breakfast :-)

Good luck!
Peer comment(s):
agree Michel A. : choice of sounds reasonable
4 mins
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agree Vicky Papaprodromou
7 mins
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agree Alfa Trans (X)
15 mins
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agree Alexander Demyanov : Yes, very possible.
2 hrs
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agree RHELLER : both are possible options here
3 hrs
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agree conejo : I agree with Ian Winick's "ask the client," but if you have to pick something, this is probably the most likely answer if you want to go that road.
5 hrs
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agree Refugio : choice of (VERY unlikely that grownups would eat chocolate-flavored cold cereal!)
5 hrs
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agree Java Cafe
6 hrs
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agree Veronica Prpic Uhing : choice of
6 hrs
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agree jccantrell : I would go with 'choice of' also. In hotels in the USA, they always have a few cereal choices if they offer a buffet breakfast (NONE of which is chocolate).
6 hrs
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agree humbird : Yah, this to be read as "cold cereal of your choice".
6 hrs
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agree Rahi Moosavi
7 hrs
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agree airmailrpl : Choice of
9 days
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+2
16 mins

Parallel thinking ... Muesli??

My thought was CH as in Switzerland, and Birchermuesli being eaten cold generally ... in my experience at least ... if it's that new Swiss [airline] they created after Swissair ... but perhaps something else in your pack of puzzles may give you a hint as to whether this is a reasonable guess or not.

Lots of luck, looks like you need it!
Peer comment(s):
agree Victor Potapov : Yeah, actually I thought about ch for Switzerland as well.. could turn out to be true, actually! This is why context is important.
1 min
agree Johanne Bouthillier
1 hr
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+3
25 mins

children's meal

Maybe "ch" stands for "child" or "children" - they like cold cereal... ;-)
Peer comment(s):
agree Nesrin : I think that might be it - the cereal is only made available for children. I mean - which self-respecting adult would order cold cereal on a plane? ;-)
46 mins
Apparently it was that. Thanks anyway Nesrin. :-)
agree Alexander Demyanov : Although I would and I do respect myself: prepared food on most airlines is horrible.
2 hrs
Yes, it is horrible. Thanks anyway. :-)
agree airmailrpl : child cold cereal
2 hrs
Yes, that is what I thought too (I even wrote it)... thanks anyway. :-)
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+3
3 hrs

Ask the customer

The only advisable thing to do is to ask your customer what these mean. Presumably someone needs the translation of these terms and will know what they mean.

The "BLAND MEAL" and "REFUGEE MEAL" sound very appetising, by the way :-)
Peer comment(s):
agree Charlie Bavington : Absolutely. If no joy, leave it out. Better an "error" of omission than misinforming people that it's the chef's/Swiss/children's/cheesy cereal when it isn't, generally correct (cold cereal alone) being better than specifically wrong, IMVHO.
1 hr
agree conejo : The client may be able to provide you with a list of standard abbreviations--you never know.
1 hr
agree Java Cafe
3 hrs
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3 hrs

cheezy horrbile cold cereal ;-)

since you have these on the menu:
CHILD HOTDOG
CHD HAMBURGER
CHILD MEAL
'ch cold cereal' probably means a 'child cold cereal'

HAM/CH SANDWICH => ham/cheese SANDWICH
MAC/CH W/HOTDOG => MACcaroni/CHeese With/HOTDOG
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7 hrs

Chef cold cereal

Just a guess (though based on the menu list).
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+1
8 days

Choice of Cold Cereal

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agree airmailrpl : -
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