Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
10 opere inedite (opera inedita) inedito
English translation:
10 previously unseen works
Added to glossary by
James (Jim) Davis
Oct 10, 2006 16:30
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Italian term
10 opere inedite
Italian to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
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Its the title. The glossary gives "previously unexhibited works", which gives the meaning, but doesn't generate the same suspense as the Italian. Any one got any brilliant ideas? In a text I usually translate with something like "for the first time" or "never seen before", but these seem a bit wordy and not right for a title.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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5 hrs
Selected
10 previously unseen works
Since they're not new.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Maryrose. Best answer in the context"
13 mins
cjohnstone
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
Experience and feel
Native in: French 
, English (Variant: British)
Works in: English to French, French to English
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4
yet unknown?yet unshown
shorter!
Note from asker:
| Thank you Catherine |
+1
14 mins
10 fresh works
Personally, I think that "previously unshown/unexhibited" sounds right in a title too.
However, if you really want another option, I think "fresh" might just fit the bill.
Good luck with it!
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Note added at 43 mins (2006-10-10 17:14:29 GMT)
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How about "10 FIRST-TIME EXHIBITS"...?
However, if you really want another option, I think "fresh" might just fit the bill.
Good luck with it!
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Note added at 43 mins (2006-10-10 17:14:29 GMT)
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How about "10 FIRST-TIME EXHIBITS"...?
Note from asker:
| That's a good idea. |
| Thank you |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
P.L.F. Persio
: la seconda che hai detto;-)
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grazie, sofia! Mi manca un po' la ProZ Community...
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52 mins
10 debut works
another option
Note from asker:
| Thank you Patricia |
50 mins
unprecedented works
I've used "unprecedented" for "inedite" before, but this only works here if the style of these new works isn't like the style of previous works. It doesn't work if they just want to say that these particular works haven't been shown yet.
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-10 17:41:26 GMT)
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Wow. I suppose you couldn't put "10 horrific new works"? Drawing from Patricia's suggestion, perhaps you could turn the phrase around and talk about this being the "gallery debut" or "exhibition debut" of these (10) works.
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-10 17:41:26 GMT)
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Wow. I suppose you couldn't put "10 horrific new works"? Drawing from Patricia's suggestion, perhaps you could turn the phrase around and talk about this being the "gallery debut" or "exhibition debut" of these (10) works.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Anna, Unfortunately, its not the case (but I'll keep it for the future). The style is the same. These works are so horrific that the artist didn't have the courage to show them before, but his style hasn't changed. |
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1 hr
Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Italian
Works in field
United Kingdom
Life is a horizontal fall (J. Cocteau)
Native in: Italian 
Works in: English to Italian
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4
ten unpublished works
this is how I would translate it.
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Note from asker:
| This is all fine but you publish things in a book not in an art exhibition and this is an exhibtion. But thanks just the same. Ill use it for the catalogue. |
| Thank you Giovanni |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Silvia Brandon-Pérez
: This is the correct option, I think; unpublished does not necessarily mean new.
43 mins
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| agree |
Mary Stefan
47 mins
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| agree |
Vittorio Preite
: Giovanni, si dice così, non c'era bisogno di tutta la documentazione. Ciao. Vittorio
59 mins
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| agree |
Vittorio Felaco
2 hrs
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5 mins
10 new works
SO che sembra un po' naive , però... suppongo che "ten previously unreleased works" sia troppo verboso, per i tuo gusti.
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Note added at 17 mins (2006-10-10 16:48:03 GMT)
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Scusa James, la giornata è stataa lunga, oggi forse sono un po' annebbiato ma non sono sicuro di aver capito. NEW è senz'altro scontato, ma tu che intendi?
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Note added at 27 mins (2006-10-10 16:58:18 GMT)
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Ooh, I see what you mean now. I didn't get this from your request. Well, I think Jany's answer is good then.
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Note added at 34 mins (2006-10-10 17:05:24 GMT)
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James, I'm lost again. But I tell you this, in italian I don't think '10 opere inedite' has any suspence at all. It's quite a common sentence with nothing special about it. Now the question is: what are you looking for, exactly, AND is is it worthwhile? ;)
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-10 18:01:01 GMT)
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My last attempt: "10 undisclosed works"
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Note added at 17 mins (2006-10-10 16:48:03 GMT)
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Scusa James, la giornata è stataa lunga, oggi forse sono un po' annebbiato ma non sono sicuro di aver capito. NEW è senz'altro scontato, ma tu che intendi?
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Note added at 27 mins (2006-10-10 16:58:18 GMT)
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Ooh, I see what you mean now. I didn't get this from your request. Well, I think Jany's answer is good then.
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Note added at 34 mins (2006-10-10 17:05:24 GMT)
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James, I'm lost again. But I tell you this, in italian I don't think '10 opere inedite' has any suspence at all. It's quite a common sentence with nothing special about it. Now the question is: what are you looking for, exactly, AND is is it worthwhile? ;)
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-10-10 18:01:01 GMT)
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My last attempt: "10 undisclosed works"
Note from asker:
| Sono anni che cerco qualcosa di veramente 'inedita' per tradurre questa parola. Non cerco un modo non pubblicato in precedenza. If you see what I mean. |
| New works is a good idea, but unfortunately these are 10 -15 years old, but just haven't been seen before. |
| Yep It is going to get a lot of attention, numbers and important people. Anyway it has to be out by tomorrow. But I partly put the question up because its one of those problem words which has no direct synonym in English. I thing "inedito" is very common, but when you say something is "inedito" you are saying it is special in some way. To simply say it is not shown before, is not to say it is special in any way. |
| Thank you Giovanni |
| Danilo |
18 mins
Jany L. M.
Italy
Italy
Native in Italian
Italy
Business and Marketing Senior student.
Native in: Italian , French
Works in: Italian to English, English to Italian, French to Italian, and 5 more.
Unveiled (for the first time)
Sounds like something revelated...if you think it can suits the case. I think it can be a nice way to describe something that has never been shown.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-10 18:32:16 GMT)
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As somone already said, inedito is not such a special word. I'd say that its a very normal adjective to describe something that has never been ..published..shown.. whatever, that's all. This is why I chose unveiled, to put into the "event" a bit more of suspance. I guess its all a matter of taste.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-10 18:32:16 GMT)
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As somone already said, inedito is not such a special word. I'd say that its a very normal adjective to describe something that has never been ..published..shown.. whatever, that's all. This is why I chose unveiled, to put into the "event" a bit more of suspance. I guess its all a matter of taste.
Note from asker:
| Too dramatic. It's panel for visitors to read. Unveiled would be great for an advertisement. |
| Thank you Jany |
8 hrs
10 works revealed
Hi James
try this one on for size
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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-10-11 00:56:33 GMT)
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http://www.yorkregion.com/yr/yrlive/story/3709077p-4287669c....
Rarely seen works revealed
This art exhibition is bold and speaks of inner spirit. And it gives visitors to The McMichael Canadian Art Collection a glimpse of new and rarely seen works of acclaimed First Nations artist Norval Morrisseau.
try this one on for size
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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-10-11 00:56:33 GMT)
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http://www.yorkregion.com/yr/yrlive/story/3709077p-4287669c....
Rarely seen works revealed
This art exhibition is bold and speaks of inner spirit. And it gives visitors to The McMichael Canadian Art Collection a glimpse of new and rarely seen works of acclaimed First Nations artist Norval Morrisseau.
Note from asker:
| Niente male |
| Thank you Linda |
10 hrs
Kenan Atalay
Türkiye
Türkiye
Türkiye
Precise.
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul )
Works in: English to Turkish, Turkish to English, Italian to Turkish
ten undisplayed works
it is what it is. .you may say it as "unexhibited works" too. other than these two, I dont think there is some other word which may give the suspense you seek that I know of...
Note from asker:
| Thank you Nit |
1 hr
Nicole Johnson
Italy
Italy
Native in English
Italy
Journalist, Translator & Interpreter
Native in: English
Works in: Italian to English, English to Italian, English
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10 unique works
Sometimes I use unique in places where no other English word works. It seems to encompass different meanings in Italian. Maybe this could work for you here! Good luck!
Principal Translations/Traduzioni principali:
unique adj unico (ineguagliabile)
unique (unusual) adj insolito (unico)
unique (singular) adj singolare
unique (peculiar) adj speciale (unico)
unique (particular) adj particolare (insolito)
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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-10-11 07:21:28 GMT)
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How about 10 premiere works then?
premiere
A noun
1 premiere
the first public performance of a play or movie
Category Tree:
event
╚social event
╚show
╚performance; public presentation
╚premiere
B verb
1 premier, premiere
perform a work for the first time
Category Tree:
perform; execute; do
╚premier, premiere
2 premier, premiere
be performed for the first time; "We premiered the opera of the young composer and it was a critical success"
C adjective
1 premier, premiere
preceding all others in time; "the premiere showing"
Principal Translations/Traduzioni principali:
unique adj unico (ineguagliabile)
unique (unusual) adj insolito (unico)
unique (singular) adj singolare
unique (peculiar) adj speciale (unico)
unique (particular) adj particolare (insolito)
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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-10-11 07:21:28 GMT)
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How about 10 premiere works then?
premiere
A noun
1 premiere
the first public performance of a play or movie
Category Tree:
event
╚social event
╚show
╚performance; public presentation
╚premiere
B verb
1 premier, premiere
perform a work for the first time
Category Tree:
perform; execute; do
╚premier, premiere
2 premier, premiere
be performed for the first time; "We premiered the opera of the young composer and it was a critical success"
C adjective
1 premier, premiere
preceding all others in time; "the premiere showing"
Note from asker:
| I thought of unique, or original which I sometimes use to get arround inedito, but here there are other works shown before which are also original and unique. |
Discussion
I suppose it's about an art exhibition and I would go with your translation: "ten unexhibited works". It might not "generate the same suspense as the Italian term" but it is short and precise and, so far, it sounds the best.
Mary