Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

31.351 mil

English translation:

31,351,000 / 1,138,651,000

Added to glossary by Robert Long
Jul 21, 2014 17:18
9 yrs ago
Portuguese term

31.351 mil

Portuguese to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
I'm quite confused by what these numbers are, as the use of "mil" at the end seems quite counterintuitive to me.

R$ 31.351 mil
R$ 1.138.651 mil
etc.

Please help!

Discussion

T o b i a s Jul 22, 2014:
Format The format is common in Br Pt. Note that by adding the word 'mil', instead of '000' the writer makes it harder to surreptitiously add or mess with the number of zeros.
Mario Freitas Jul 22, 2014:
Robert said that the documents refer to the profits of a construction company, not that the 1.138.651 mil correspond to its net profits. If, for example, the 31.351 mil are the net profits, for a large construction company it is obvious that the profits require three more zeros. Furthermore, I repeat, the dot does not represent a decimal point in Portuguese.
António Ribeiro Jul 21, 2014:
profits of a construction company??? Deve ser alguma que construiu os estádios de futebol. Na minha opinião o "mil" está a mais.
R. Alex Jenkins Jul 21, 2014:
I think you should send a note to the agency/client and ask them to clarify this, just to be on the safe side. The difference between R$ 1.138 million in profits and R$ 1.138 BILLION in profits is enormous, and would be a gross translation error if you get it wrong. Better check those figures.
Mario Freitas Jul 21, 2014:
I don't think you can just remove it, The "mil" unit is very common in finance, above all in tables, to reduce the numbers. The numbers are separated by dots ".", which, in Portuguese, do not stand for decimal points, yet to mere separators. The "mil" should be replaced by three zeros, as suggested by Eduardo. When you see a number with a comma (e.g. 1,357) in Portuguese, then you can eliminate the mil.
Robert Long (asker) Jul 21, 2014:
The context is regarding the profits of a construction company, so the suggestion made by Eduardo to render them as 31,351,000, etc., though confusing, seems to make sense in the context. I just thought it was very bizarre for them to write mil after the number like that instead of just writing out the entire number.
Ana Ribeiro Olson (X) Jul 21, 2014:
I agree that it's probably an error. I'd report this to the client, explaining that you omitted the word "mil", just to be on the safe side.
Paulinho Fonseca Jul 21, 2014:
Have you got the context, please?
Paulinho Fonseca Jul 21, 2014:
It's redundant. The numbers speak for themselves. Unless source writer wants to specify amount and that should be done in parentheses and for complete amount.

Proposed translations

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5 mins
Selected

31,351,000 / 1,138,651,000

At first, it looks like this. Like the measure unit is 'thousands'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Mario Freitas :
27 mins
agree nweatherdon : unless the context clearly implies that the number are reasonable as 31k and 1138k, then I would assume this is correct. But the "mil" should occur in the column heading, imo.
28 mins
agree T o b i a s
1 day 54 mins
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks! Based on the context (revenue earnings) this solution is the only one that makes sense. Additionally, um mil would be 1,000, so it makes sense to add the three zeros here as well."
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9 mins

remove the "mil"

These are financial amounts, without decimal places:

R$ 31,351
&
R$ 1,138,651

No need for that silly "mil".

Peer comment(s):

agree Thiago Araujo : Possibly a mistake in a report. They do it a lot, but you just need to ignore it.
3 mins
The first number, 31 thousand, is correct/tolerable to a point, but the seond figure of 1.138 million is really confusing. I guess the "mil" serves to inform us that these are large numbers, not nominal amounts.
agree Ana Ribeiro Olson (X)
8 mins
Cheers, Ana :)
agree Paulinho Fonseca
15 mins
agree Silvia Martins
17 hrs
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