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Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

kamennyi ugol

English translation:

hard coal

Added to glossary by Emily Justice
Dec 20, 2007 09:35
16 yrs ago
Russian term

kamennyi ugol

Russian to English Other Energy / Power Generation
I am trying to establish whether this should be translated simply as 'coal' or whether it ALWAYS refers to coal with a particularly high carbon content. i.e. hard coal (or possibly black coal).
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 hard coal
3 +4 bituminous coal
4 +1 black coal
4 +1 coal

Discussion

Jack slep Dec 29, 2007:
There are many types of coal: anthracite, gas coal, cannel coal, durain, fat, coking, lump, steam-baking, semi-bright, sapropelic, etc., etc. When one refers to "coal" one generally means "hard coal" but in the given case perhaps the distinction is needed
Jack slep Dec 28, 2007:
There are many types of coal: anthracite, gas coal, cannel coal, durain, fat, coking, lump, steam-baking, semi-bright, sapropelic, etc., etc. When one refers to "coal" one generally means "hard coal" but in the given case perhaps the distinction is needed
Igor Blinov Dec 20, 2007:
I think they rather differ it by quality. Black coal as opposite to brown one has more dense and crystalline structure and higher heat of combustion. In this sense "bituminous coal" will suit too.
Dylan Edwards Dec 20, 2007:
Is каменный уголь contrasted with any other kind of уголь in your text? Judging by some sources, there are just two main kinds, каменный and бурый, which would usually be called simply 'coal' and 'lignite'.
Ryszard Matuszewski Dec 20, 2007:
there are kinds of coal, like lignite (brown coal) which are definitely not "kamennyi ugol)

Proposed translations

+2
56 mins
Selected

hard coal

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Peer comment(s):
agree Ryszard Matuszewski
11 mins
Thank you.
agree Jack slep : Absolutely, no question about it. Any Russian geological or related dictionary would confirm so.
8 days
Thank you. Yes, I have one (by Alekseyev et al.), which does.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to all. In the end I checked with the client and they just meant 'generic coal', but it was useful for me to see that I did have grounds for checking."
+1
3 mins

black coal

you are absolutely right - with high carbon content
Peer comment(s):
agree Ryszard Matuszewski : or "hard coal" - in some parts of the world it's called "black coal"
1 hr
Thanks!
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+1
18 mins

coal

I think it's just coal.
Peer comment(s):
agree Alexander Kondorsky : Depends on the context, but unless otherwise stated it is just COAL
22 mins
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+4
9 mins

bituminous coal

Here is what my dictionary says:
Каменный уголь - (часто, но неточно, любой ископаемый уголь) coal; (в точном словоупотреблении — уголь средней степени метаморфизма) bituminous coal

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-12-20 10:48:34 GMT)
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Compare classifications of coal:
Russian classification (http://tinyurl.com/2fzcyt):
1. Бурые угли.
2. Каменные угли.
3. Антрациты.
4. Графиты.
Western classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Types_of_coal):
1. Lignite, also referred to as brown coal.
2. Sub-bituminous coal, bituminous coal.
3. Anthracite.
4. Graphite.
Peer comment(s):
agree Valery Kaminski
19 mins
thanks
agree Jennifer Guernsey : Agreed - whether you need to specify "bituminous" or not will depend on your context, but I don't think it can hurt in any case.
29 mins
Thank you!
agree Ryszard Matuszewski : or "hard coal" (technical dictionary)
41 mins
Thank you!
neutral Alexander Kondorsky : Надеюсь Вы не утверждаете, что словари всегда правы? Я повторяю, все зависит от контекста: Если дана таблица классификации угле, то Вы правы, если в тексте просто упомянут "каменный уголь" то это просто coal
45 mins
Я не понял, что вы сказали, Александр. Я ведь просто привел то, что написано в словаре/ Ну вы б тогда так и написали, что, мол, словарь говорит неправду// Не, не утверждаю :)
agree lanochka : А что у Вас за словарь? : ))
59 mins
Русско-английский Политехнический словарь. Изд. «Русский Язык» 1996 г.
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