Glossary entry

Turkish term or phrase:

Eski Türkçe

English translation:

Old Turkic/Orkhon Turkic

Added to glossary by Cagdas Karatas
Sep 9, 2008 08:48
15 yrs ago
Turkish term

Eski Türkçe

Turkish to English Other Linguistics Name of (hypothetical?) language
Hi

As in the book title 'Eski Türkçenin Grameri'

This is of course perhaps not as straightforward as it seems as Eski Türkçe is older than Osmanlıca and what is more I am not even sure if there exist texts in it - if such texts do not exist we might have to call ıt proto-Turkish. If such texts do exist please tell me where

Best

Simon
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Sep 11, 2008 12:57: Cagdas Karatas Created KOG entry

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Discussion

Mehmet Hascan Sep 10, 2008:
Tim Drayton Sep 9, 2008:
Proto-Turkish Proto-Turkish dates from before the fourth century AD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Turkic_language
I think you need to check the preface of the book to help you determine the period from which the language described originates.
Tim Drayton Sep 9, 2008:
Early Turkish I aree with all the suggestions made. "Early Turkish" may be another viable alternative. In the above-mentioned work, Clauson refers to a paper he has written entitled "Three Notes on Early Turkish".
Tim Drayton Sep 9, 2008:
Oldest written texts in Turkic languages According to the preface to Sir Gerard Clauson's "Etymological Dictionary of Pre-Thirteenth Century Turkish", the oldest surviving written texts in Turkic languages date back to the eighth century. These are all inscriptions, and the oldest documents date back to the ninth century.

Proposed translations

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Old Turkic

American Heritage Dictionary

Old Turkic
Old Turkic
n.
The language of the oldest texts of the Turkic dialects, written in a variety of scripts from the 7th to the 12th century.

However, you should keep in mind that in daily language "Eski Türkçe" is frequently used to mean "Ottoman."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Turkic

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http://depts.washington.edu/ccalt/database/search/quick-cate...

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The language is also widely referred to as "Orkhon Turkic."
Peer comment(s):

agree Tim Drayton
25 mins
Teşekkür ederim
neutral skaya : I don't think Osmanlıca is referred to as "Eski Turkce". I think you confuse it with "eski yazı"
1 hr
I won't disagree with "eski yazı." It is widely used as well. No confusion. "Yok ben okuyamam o eski türkçeymiş/eski yazıymış" is an expression I have heard thousands of times so far.
agree Mehmet Hascan : http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:36pJ9cAWirQJ:www.fen.se...
1 day 1 hr
Teşekkür ederim
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+5
3 mins

Old/Ancient Turkish

Old/Ancient Turkish
Peer comment(s):

agree babycheeks
4 mins
teşekkürler
agree Tim Drayton
30 mins
teşekkürler
agree skaya
1 hr
teşekkürler
agree Alp Berker
6 hrs
teşekkürler
agree Mehmet Hascan
7 hrs
teşekkürler
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13 mins

archaic turkish (language)

archaic
Peer comment(s):

agree Tim Drayton
20 mins
agree Mehmet Hascan
6 hrs
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